to tell the truth it doesn't surprise me greatly given my personal experiences with them; nor does Hallgeir's use of the word "pussy" surprise me greatly given his general attitude & views. They were always better when Lasse was with them anyway. Fuck 'em.
elaborate on this more please.
this next part does not apply to PIB. i don't know them, but this just got me thinking.....
this has been my issue with "xvx" bands in the past. i was around the 94-95 era and remember touring with noteable bands of that scene while they watched porn and talked about hooking up with girls. i remember staying at, supposedly "hardline" houses where the bathroom was covered in porn.
i find it hypocritical when bands front "xvx" but have no consideration for the struggle for human rights and dignity. fighting sexim, racism, classism, homophobia, etc seems to be consistant with a struggle against oppression. to hear supposed "xvx" bands using language like this seems a little inconsistent with ideas of fighting oppression.
i'll agree with 'pib' in the sense that veganism and straight edge is not the "be all, end all". i think we might put bands on too much of a pedastool when it comes to the whole 'xvx' scene.
Well, like many folks in the vegan sXe scene (& the greater hardcore scene in general), certain members of PIB exhibited what I would consider very macho behavior in their time in the US. I don't really feel like going into specifics too much, but there was a lot of tough guy posturing & machismo present on the Total Liberation Tour, & PIB were far from the only ones exhibiting this behavior. It wasn't the best of times for me, personally. I never real;ly felt comfortable around it, whether it was what people were saying, the words they used, or the eway they acted. Maybe I'm just an "emo faggot".
Thinly-veiled misogyny disuised as pseudofeminism, extreme heteronormativity & a near total lack of real awareness of class & race issues seem to be par for the course in the hardcore scene, unfortunately, & vegan straight edge kids are not always the exceptions I'd hope they would be.
No choice do we have left but to raise our weapons to the sky
The time has come for change and this time it's war
THIS TIME IT'S WAR!